Curse

Sir Hammonsweet · Jun 20, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53

You know why people make fun of people and call everyone n00bs? It's because, since online video games is their life, they have to make sure that they are good at it to feel like they have accomplished something in the world. And when people aren't as experienced as they are (because they have lives), then they start to get annoyed with them and call them n00bs. These are the same kind of people that live at home with their parents til their 30's and wake up at 5 p.m. just to eat and play Guild Wars, so you know what, you should feel sorry for them.

Luggage · Jun 20, 2005, 11:02 PM // 23:02

"Sorry, we are doing bonus. Meet up in Dist 1." *drop*

Silmor · Jun 20, 2005, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Just as these 'elitists' are overgeneralizing inexperienced players as hopeless 'n00bs', the lot of you are overgeneralizing experienced players as elitists with no life that still live in their parent's basement. That's an elitist attitude just the same, so you're no better than them.

arnansnow · Jun 20, 2005, 11:07 PM // 23:07

^
I said the same thing, but did no one listen, nooooooo.
you all must think your too good to listen to complaints, don't you?

Jwh6913 · Jun 20, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Silmor

Just as these 'elitists' are overgeneralizing inexperienced players as hopeless 'n00bs', the lot of you are overgeneralizing experienced players as elitists with no life that still live in their parent's basement. That's an elitist attitude just the same, so you're no better than them.

I agree, I only give specific examples when I'm talking about something. Generalizing aint good for everybody.

Sir Hammonsweet · Jun 20, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

No, I didn't say that all experienced players are like that. I am just saying the people that torment other people for not being as experienced as they are and constantly put down people for being worse than them probably are. It seems to me like the people that brag about being awesome at this game really don't have much else to brag about or live for.

Silmor · Jun 20, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Well, we don't know that. Some might feel a need to put down others online to compensate for their real-life weaknesses, others may have more complex reasons for their behaviour. I just don't see the reason why anyone would need to conclude people like that probably have no life, being just more of the same 'holier than thou' attitude, unless they too need it to feel better about themselves.

Sir Hammonsweet · Jun 20, 2005, 11:36 PM // 23:36

I dunno why certain people act like that. Everyone acts differently I guess. That's the beauty of people, is that we are all different.

Akshara · Jun 20, 2005, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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the lot of you are overgeneralizing experienced players as elitists...

I don't know who "the lot of you" is referring to on that first page, but I wasn't generalizing anybody. Just posting a direct experience I had the other night, where a so-called ascended master decided to treat his teammates like weakling idiot morons without knowing a thing about us.

And yeah, I've experienced other "elite" players going through missions... some of them were nice and helpful to the team, and others were rude and condescending. It's not a side effect of being a good or experienced player, rather than a personal attitude one has toward other people in general.

Akshara · Jun 20, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45

And fwiw, I've had days where I wake up at 5pm to eat and play Guild Wars too. But I'm a successful professional with a wife and a house of my own. That comment didn't sit too well with me either...

Kula · Jun 20, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58

I've played more than you = I'm better than you = You are a 'noob'.

This mentality has been running rampant across multiplayer games, and not just the online kind, for as long as humans grasped the concept of competition...it will never go away. So just IGNORE the elitists and try to get your own friend's list going.

Just thank the heavens that in real life, nobody in their right mind says "noob" in the spoken English language.

arnansnow · Jun 20, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

I have heard people say noob in everyday talk, but it sounds very stupid, and people riducule the person for saying it.

Sir Hammonsweet · Jun 21, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Akshara

And fwiw, I've had days where I wake up at 5pm to eat and play Guild Wars too. But I'm a successful professional with a wife and a house of my own. That comment didn't sit too well with me either...

Sorry for offending anyone with my overgeneralization. I was really jus trying to console those who have been treated with a condescending attitude, but I see that wasn't the right approach. Instead, turn the other cheek and find another party. Jus leave these "elitists" to themselves...

Haung Yu · Jun 21, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Everyone in the world is a noob at something, and everyone in the world also has something that they can do better than others. What I mean is, they may think that they're better at the game just because they played more than you, but you probably know how to carve something beautiful out of a piece of jade, and they don't. You are probably a great artist or musician but they aren't.

KaPe · Jun 21, 2005, 01:10 AM // 01:10

"I've played more than you = I'm better than you = You are a 'noob'."

Nonono, it goes like that :
"I'm higher level than you = you are a noob.
You're higher level than me = you have no life."

arnansnow · Jun 21, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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"I've played more than you = I'm better than you = You are a 'noob'."

Nonono, it goes like that :
"I'm higher level than you = you are a noob.
You're higher level than me = you have no life."

Best definition I have seen yet.

Apophis Jaan · Jun 21, 2005, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Well I wasnt trying to generalizing, the elitist attitude transends levels, time played and any other in game goals. Some people feel the need to put down those who cant do something as well as them and this bothers me. There is no excuse to why these people get frustrated to the point of insulting the other player because he/she is inexperienced. Just today I was doing a UW run, one monk kept complaining that we werent orginized enough, that we werent doing the run the proper way. Well instead of helping us get more orginized, she just continued to bitch and moan that we were making stupid mistakes. So we get to the smites and when the tank runs foward to get the attention of the buggers, one of the other warriors runs foward also. Well that through off the aggro and ppl got killed, the monks and the nuker survived since us warriors were able to wall em off at least. Anyways, instead of salvaging the group and rebirthing the warriors she just proclaims "Well that went well. Your all idiots you know that!" and leaves, along with two others though they didnt make any assinine comments.

Instead of being constructive and offering strategy she just got frustrated and annoyed, barking insults at the group for the percieved imperfections. It's people like that we need to be rid of. People like that who ruin others enjoyment of the game. There needs to be more helpful experienced people with patience.

I'd like to think I'm one of those, granted not in Guild Wars (not that Im not a nice person in GW, just that Im not experienced enough in GW yet). But for example I'm relatively skilled in Battlefield 2 (usually end up in the top 3). But when Im in a squad that doesnt really have a game plan I dont get frustrated and insult my mates, I offer assistance and strategy so that we can get it together and start kicking some ass. If someone asks how to do something I tell them, I dont yell "read the f'ing manual".

Sometimes I think online games should require an attitude test, so that we can filter out the assholes prehand.

Yabba · Jun 21, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Apophis Jaan

Sometimes I think online games should require an attitude test, so that we can filter out the assholes prehand.

that thought has passed my mind very often in my 5 years of mmorpgs ...

i never will understand why people feel superior to others in a game.

when i played daoc and was high ranked pvp player i was getting anyone in my team who was standing around and looking for a pvp group.
even if the people were not high lvl, had low pvp rank or were totally new to pvp.
i was quite shocked when about 90% of that people thanked me for taking them with me and said that other high ranked players just call them noobs and don`t bother to even speak to them ...

it`s just a game. people should really relax and do a reality check.

i still can`t believe how many people in GW are crying "rank2/rank3 player looking for experienced team !".

i would never invite such a person into a team

just for the reason that i think these people have to be dumb to think that fame does mean anything.

and i prefer smart players over dumb ones - even if that means that i have to team with 100000 players to find the right ones

Scaphism · Jun 21, 2005, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by Siran Dunmorgan

I mean, imagine—calling Scrivener a noob. It's like calling GhostRaptor a 'scrub'.

Weird.

—Siran Dunmorgan

I wanted to bring this up again because it was glossed over. I'd bet less than one out of every 500 people here knows who Scrivener is. He's done a great job remaining incognito, if he's even around anymore.

We should be grateful they don't call us "olds" or some equally ridiculous monniker.

Here's a quick story since we're sharing:
I was in LA trying to buy and unlock superior runes. I got a few nibbles, then finally one guy asks "how much money do you have?" My natural instinct was suspicion, because the question was aggressive bespoke a lack of patience. Still, as an interested buyer I knew I wanted what he was selling, if indeed he was selling anything.

I asked how many runes he had to sell. 19. I replied that I wish I'd met him a week ago when I had some real money.
"How much do you have?" he asked again.
I took a quick look at my bankroll.
"Around 70k," I replied.
"I wipe my ass with 70k."
"Congrats."
I tried whispering him again to see how many runes I could buy- but he'd signed off, leaving me to wonder if he had any interest in selling to begin with.

Silly me, here I thought he was interested in selling, when it turned out all he wanted to do was stroke his ego. One can only imagine why he left- fear of me not liking him despite his huge bank account?

The punchline: It must take a lot of money to wipe an ass that big.

Dirkiess · Jun 21, 2005, 09:33 AM // 09:33

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Originally Posted by Jwh6913

ran across such a person- a monk of all people! we were doing d'alessio mission, people wanted the bonus so i thought fine. I start going and killing everything , the monk kept saying wait wait wait because the so called leader hasn't loaded. I do just fine, thye caught up, we got to the village, I said don't kill the random mobs, head straight for banik, they ignored me, banik dies, oh well, I ignore them and keep going to confessor doric, died once on the way when 5 ghouls surrounded me. I got a res with namecalling and flaming, and bragging that he knows EVERYTHING about the game and that he won't heal me anymore. I said Fine I won't do not one thing then I headed to confessor Doric and did nothing at all but just stand there at the shrine until the end of the mission. when we hit divinity I left the group. I hate braggarts and smart alecs lik that.

some people say I may be a jerk for doing that, but the monk purposedly made everybody who hasn't played through the mission before fail the bonus to lack of knowledge for giggles.

Ok, but do you think they ignored what you said, because you went off and started killing things without waiting for everyone to load into the mission.

Not all players have a top of the line Broadband connection or have even done the mission before, and have to wait for the loading.

Maybe it was pay back for you being a bit selfish, whether you can handle yourself or not, in not waiting for everyone to load into the mission.

You just showed the others, that why should we listen to this guy if he isn't going to listen to us. Others follow your actions and not what you say.

In my eyes, that is sort of eliteism.